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Phil G.
06-12-2008, 10:57 PM
I think I would order a new F350 pretty quick if CAT pitched in and helped with an engine. I'm not sure where Ford & Navistar stand on their spat over the 6.ohoh warranty costs but lets hope they are still talking... just in case.



Caterpillar & Navistar Pursue Strategic Alliance
RV Business
Thursday, June 12, 2008

Caterpillar Inc. and Navistar International Corp. have signed a “memorandum of understanding” (MOU) to pursue global on-highway truck business opportunities and cooperate on a variety of engine platforms. The two companies intend to focus on global truck opportunities, including North American severe service construction trucks, as well as technology development for engines worldwide, according to a corporate release.

"We are pleased to be matching the formidable talents and technology leadership of two industry leaders to serve an expanding base of engine, truck and equipment customers worldwide," said Jim Owens, Caterpillar chairman and CEO. "As the world leader in construction equipment and diesel engines, Caterpillar is now positioning itself for growth in the on-highway truck market. This is an important step for Caterpillar and we look forward to working with Navistar for the continued benefit of our customers."

"This relationship is a perfect example of Navistar's strategy of growth through leveraging our own assets and those that others have built," said Daniel C. Ustian, Navistar chairman, president and CEO. "In partnership with Caterpillar we intend to extend our leading-edge product focus that we have in North America into the rest of the world."

Through this alliance, Caterpillar plans to target a 2010 introduction of a North American Cat branded heavy-duty truck for severe service applications, such as road construction, large infrastructure projects and oil and petroleum development. Concurrent with this new strategic direction, Caterpillar has determined independently that it will not supply EPA 2010 compliant engines to truck and other on-highway original equipment manufacturers (OEMs).

"Caterpillar and our dealers will continue to provide product support and service beyond 2010 for all Caterpillar on-highway engines regardless of truck brand," said Caterpillar Group President Douglas R. Oberhelman. "This new truck -- targeted for 2010 -- will incorporate the legendary quality of Caterpillar's construction and mining machines and provide construction customers a one-stop solution. In addition, with nearly 90% of our engine business being off-highway, we'll continue to concentrate on our substantial and growing opportunities to supply engines in the petroleum, marine, electric power generation and industrial markets-as well as produce engines for our own construction and mining equipment."

The companies have commissioned teams to focus on the truck and engine opportunities. The initiatives contemplated by the MOU are subject to completion of due diligence, execution of definitive agreements and regulatory approvals.

Global Truck Collaboration: The companies intend to work together to develop, manufacture and distribute commercial trucks in select regions outside of North America. The product offering would include a full line of medium and heavy-duty trucks in both conventional and cab over designs.

Engine Technology: Under the alliance, Caterpillar and Navistar plan to cooperate on engine development, incorporating "best in class" technologies from both companies. Caterpillar and Navistar intend to work together on development of mid-range engines for diesel applications, such as school buses and utility trucks, which would support each company's stated path not to utilize urea-based Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) technology.

Remanufacturing Growth and Additional Synergies: Through the alliance, the companies also intend to expand their existing remanufacturing relationship to include Navistar's recently introduced MaxxForce on-highway engines. The companies expect to pursue additional remanufacturing opportunities as new vehicles and engines are developed. They also plan to explore opportunities to leverage their scale, combining, for example, raw material and other commodity purchases to reduce costs.

Lilbigtrk
06-13-2008, 03:42 AM
they have prototypes in the state wiht the 6 cyl cat in the fors f350 dually. but they keep blowing trannys and rear ends to much toque.

LayinHp
06-13-2008, 08:45 AM
expect prices for these diesels to go way up along with replacement parts... CAT's good but expensive and expensive parts, id hope they could keep up with a parts backing program i know there so far behind on there heavy equipment its almost pethetic there waiting forever for stuff up here in the oilsands and its because they wont up production in the states (this coming from CatFinning north of fort mcmurray)

Ford needs to pull in the rains on the cummins motors i know there makeing $$ from there competitor but its also hurting them not haveing a real reliable powerful power train.

the only way you will see a cat in a ford is if navi/cat partner ford has to much left i think on there contract with navi and theyd probly be sued for conract break or something like that

LaredoRV
06-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Ford is currently working on their own Diesel Engine... ;)

fordtough.ca
06-13-2008, 05:56 PM
I was sure was build by outside company

thunderstroke
07-13-2008, 01:55 AM
doubt for will get a cat motor as cat woun't be even making highway turck motors past 2010 and ford is building their f150 diesel with peugot and likely bigger ones as well.

Phil G.
07-19-2008, 08:01 PM
Ford needs to pull in the rains on the cummins motors i know there makeing $$ from there competitor but its also hurting them not haveing a real reliable powerful power train.


Ford does not have any financial interest in Cummins, that is an age old rumour from the days when they had a minority interest in them.

mitchbtu
07-20-2008, 12:08 AM
Cat engines in F series... Can I be the test driver... I will do it for free....

LayinHp
07-20-2008, 10:23 AM
Ford does not have any financial interest in Cummins, that is an age old rumour from the days when they had a minority interest in them.


so they did have a stake in them... i see they sold out in 2001 or so so its not rumour i guess....






what they anounced on the radio they otherday was will not be offering an engine to companiesanymore as it was going into production with navistar to make a emissions compliant engine for 2010

Ross
07-20-2008, 04:03 PM
doubt for will get a cat motor as cat woun't be even making highway turck motors past 2010 and ford is building their f150 diesel with peugot and likely bigger ones as well.

Correct. CAT have made a deal with a major player in the highway truck market.

They will be building Oil-Field truck's toghether and are going to stop supplying engine's to the High-way truck industry.

Ross