View Full Version : Whats your suspension?
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 07:52 AM
hey, extreme boredom here, waiting for school.. :(.
so what do you have under the front of your truck?
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oh yeah, if you have more than one, just choose the one you use most
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 12:40 PM
Ifs for me. smooth riding and no alignment issues like the TTB. had 4 TTB trucks. camber issues on all. Although you can get a fair amount of wheel travel out of them.
Fordwheeler
09-05-2008, 01:27 PM
All solid axles here. Except for the wifes truck/suv.
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 02:51 PM
i hate ifs, thats what my mazda was, and Ill never have another
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 02:54 PM
i hate ifs, thats what my mazda was, and Ill never have another
what do you think is under your ranger??? if it's 2 wheel drive it'll have ford's twin-I-beam suspension. that is IFS. if it's a 4x4 it'll have the TTB, also IFS.
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 02:56 PM
what do you think is under your ranger??? if it's 2 wheel drive it'll have ford's twin-I-beam suspension. that is IFS. if it's a 4x4 it'll have the TTB, also IFS.
no
IFS is torsion bars
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 02:59 PM
nope, IFS is defined as each wheel being able to move independant from each other. my 08 has IFS and there are no torsion bars.
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 03:02 PM
ok
when I mean ifs, i mean torsion bars
when talking about RBVs (Ranger Based Vehicles {Rangers, B-Series 94+, BroncoIIs, and explorers}) its either IFS, TTB or SAS
no disrespect
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 03:09 PM
none takin Boggin, i just don't wanna confuse any members that have the same questions. IFS to me is any axel that can move independantly from each other, whether it has torsion bars, control arms, macpherson strut or TTB. the old ford 1/2 tons had solid axel up till around 80-81 and the 250-350 still have them. a solid will move both wheels, one will go up and the other will go down. if that makes sense.:icon_biggrin:
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 03:16 PM
none takin Boggin, i just don't wanna confuse any members that have the same questions. IFS to me is any axel that can move independantly from each other, whether it has torsion bars, control arms, macpherson strut or TTB. the old ford 1/2 tons had solid axel up till around 80-81 and the 250-350 still have them. a solid will move both wheels, one will go up and the other will go down. if that makes sense.:icon_biggrin:
haha yeah,
my pop had one of those 1.2 ton solid axels, Ill try to get a pic for ya,
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yay 100 post, lol
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your sig says 05 super, wasnt that your username? how is it changed?
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 03:24 PM
haha yeah,
my pop had one of those 1.2 ton solid axels, Ill try to get a pic for ya,
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yay 100 post, lol
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your sig says 05 super, wasnt that your username? how is it changed?
congrats on the big 100, you're on the way to post whore status.
05 was my former name. when i traded my 05 off on my new 08 i changed my name. Matt helped on that one;)
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 03:26 PM
congrats on the big 100, you're on the way to post whore status.
05 was my former name. when i traded my 05 off on my new 08 i changed my name. Matt helped on that one;)
lol, nice! Ill probably be changing mine too
BRONCO II SOON BABY!!!:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:
and shes the best price! FREE! and 4x4!! :icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:
and na, I already got 1 site to whore on, Ive been there since november 07 and got close to 3000 post, lol
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Matt sure is a nice guy, isnt he? alot of sites would never change your name
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 03:35 PM
yep, Matt's great. probably a one time thing tho. the name change.;)
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 03:37 PM
yep, Matt's great. probably a one time thing tho. the name change.;)
haha, yeah that must be sorta a big step
truckpilot
09-05-2008, 04:27 PM
So can anyone join in on this thread or is it just for you two? :-)
Northern Supercrew
09-05-2008, 04:29 PM
Come on in. lol But i think we're done now. Anything to add? Tell me i'm right and there's a 20 in it for you. Boggin's can i borrow 20.00?
Tetford4X4
09-05-2008, 04:37 PM
So can anyone join in on this thread or is it just for you two? :-)
GO AWAY this thread dont belong to you, I saw it first!!
haha Im just bustin ya, haha we were having a little convo that strangely went from us disagreeing on the definition of IFS to username changes and to how nice matty is! haha, come on in!
Come on in. lol But i think we're done now. Anything to add? Tell me i'm right and there's a 20 in it for you. Boggin's can i borrow 20.00?
sure, Ill give you and pilot 50 bucks each, Im feeling generous! haha
canadian.bacon
01-08-2009, 11:37 PM
technically, whats on torsion bar trucks is called short long arm (SLA), from Ford anyways. IFS is just any front suspension design that isn't a solid axle and each corner moves independently, as the name would imply. i'm fairly sure TTB is an IFS type suspension.
taisa899
01-08-2009, 11:39 PM
Jeff you're about to get a usernote! lol
canadian.bacon
01-08-2009, 11:46 PM
and na, I already got 1 site to whore on, Ive been there since november 07 and got close to 3000 post, lol
i was a few hundred off of 20 000 posts on this toronto civic club forum i was on back in the day. whoring at its best there.
taisa899
01-08-2009, 11:55 PM
I used to whore on FTE and FTW but now just here
north44
01-09-2009, 12:14 AM
It's kind of interesting, but I think that pretty well every manufacturer has gone IFS for their trucks and SUVs (except at least for the big heavy-duty jobs - e.g. Ford 250 series and up).
I used to have a Jeep Cherokee (vintage '88) and it had solid axles front and rear - I know the Wranglers/YJs had them then as well - don't know about these days, as I haven't kept up with their products. Durable and solid (just as the name implies, I guess) and the engineers did a pretty good job of making the ride comfortable (but still bumpy - movement on one front wheel would translate through to the other side), and pretty good handling for all that "old" technology.
As for our Fords, I guess that part of the reason the old I-beams went the way of the dodo bird (besides the alignment issues) was all that weight, the room that they took up under the vehicle, as well as what appears to be greater complexity in manufacturing.
Independent front suspension makes for better handling, and a better ride IMO. Seems unlikely the manufacturers will ever go back to the older systems.
Forgive the long post, but between taking the poll and reading the posts, I may have lost track of what the real topic actually might be. :signs053:
canadian.bacon
01-09-2009, 12:28 AM
the newjeep rubicons come with a "new" version of the dana 44 front axle. front and rear lockers too. i was on the fence about getting one but when i needed a new vehicle last spring ford had 0% finance on rangers, and jeep wanted 7.7% financing. almost wish i paid the $1000 to fix my old car and waited till fall to buy though grrrr.
the long travel kits from camburg and dixon bros for rangers make IFS suspension come alive, pretty much take all the weak links out and give you (i think) 14" travel :character0182:
Lilbigtrk
01-09-2009, 02:37 AM
i got straight in the rear and sissor in the front.
:P damn ford rangers lol.
taisa899
01-09-2009, 04:55 AM
I love my IFS but mine's a street/strip truck
north44
01-09-2009, 06:42 PM
the newjeep rubicons come with a "new" version of the dana 44 front axle. front and rear lockers too. i was on the fence about getting one but when i needed a new vehicle last spring ford had 0% finance on rangers, and jeep wanted 7.7% financing. almost wish i paid the $1000 to fix my old car and waited till fall to buy though grrrr.
the long travel kits from camburg and dixon bros for rangers make IFS suspension come alive, pretty much take all the weak links out and give you (i think) 14" travel :character0182:
Those jeeps have always been like mountain goats off road. Reliable, and tough suspension and drivetrain - but, not a very practical everyday driver, or for most work (though with a snow plow, they can get into tight places), or for carrying loads.
In my experience with a solid axle front end, there was a constant problem with the U-joints (front outer, mainly, on both sides) - probably due to the layout and configuration more than anything else.
As for the interest rate, can you imagine how someone who is paying the 7.7% financing is feeling about now . . .
And your point about availability of suspension kits for the Ranger is well taken - those who choose to make it more of an "off-roader" can do so, and in the meantime, as stock (or optioned out) it fits the bill for a larger (buying) audience.
north44
01-09-2009, 06:50 PM
I love my IFS but mine's a street/strip truck
I think that's one of the great things about trucks in general - versatility.
You can option it out straight from the factory (or off the lot) to fit your needs, from plain-Jane work truck (you see them all the time - white paint, 5-speed manual, underpowered 4 cyl engine in a truck usually loaded to the gills, company drivers who beat the heck out of them - usually also left idling for long periods of time because the company pays for the gas), right up to fully loaded, luxurious cruisers.
IFS, to keep to the topic, is probably the best all purpose suspension - those who want more Off-Road capability can exercise that option - either straight from the factory or aftermarket.
Cozmik
01-12-2009, 05:45 PM
IFS/IRS. Had IFS/solid on my 98, but my 05 EB is just so comfortable and well mannered.
I was going to replace my Sport with a Jeep, but I opted to stick with a FORD and I wanted more space than a Jeep offers. Plus, I love my V8. :icon_cool:
02blackgt
01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
If you would have bought a Jeep I would have kicked you really hard in your twig and giggle berries! OH, and then I would have disowned you as a friend and pee'd on your jeep!:mockery-035::violent080::angry019::angry040::mockery-035:
Cozmik
01-12-2009, 10:38 PM
Yes, we know each other!!
:icon_cry: :signs038: