Low Pricing for Lightning?

[Fordsy]

Is this the norm for an 01 Lightning? only $15k with 18,000km's and some mods? That seems a tad low but I am curious to know if that's around the normal asking price.


Hopefully the link works

http://www.trader.ca/Search/Details.asp?mknm=713&Region=-1&subcategory=203&CAT=2&ADID=7318680&ADS=7318680%7C

Year 2001 Price $15,000
Make FORD Mileage 18,000 km
Model F-150 Date 10/17/2008

DESCRIPTION
Full Custom Stereo, LFP Stage 3 Performance Pkg, Flowmaster Cat-Back, K&N air filter, 2 piece billet grille, 18 000kms (not a mistake), running 14LB's of boost, $15 000,

[Bush_aholic]

That's looks normal to me If you look in the States some are going for even cheaper and have all the same types of mods.......But the guy could probably sit on a even higher price and it would eventually sell with patience.

[LayinHp]

id be carfull with the 14lbs boost on an OE block wouldnt take it for long with a heavy foot

price is a bit right i guess....

remember a usa vehical will be cheaper but will always stay that way and must be disclosed in a resale.... but they are cheaper..... lol

[mitchbtu]

Also with the price of fuel lately, the dealers (as a example) are having a really hard time selling the gas guzzling trucks... That may be why this vehicle could be underpriced...

[MJG]

id be carfull with the 14lbs boost on an OE block wouldnt take it for long with a heavy foot

price is a bit right i guess....

remember a usa vehical will be cheaper but will always stay that way and must be disclosed in a resale.... but they are cheaper..... lol

Don't worry about 14 lbs of boost on the block, it will handle it just fine all day long, even if you were a track warrior, it's all in the tune.

MAKE SURE YOU ASK WHERE/WHO TUNED IT.
There are some stock blocks that run 600+ horsepower, those can let go at any second, but from the performance kit he has on there, he's in the area of 400. The motor can take it no problem, its when you start inching close to the 500 mark you have to start thinking going built. If he had a 'canned' (email) tune, those are general, and not neccesarily all that great and dont tap in to some extra hp that can be found with a good dyno tune.

Also, 99-02 have only 4 threads holding in the sparkplugs, these are known as plugshooters. If you drive it, listen for a faint ping. Also, before purchasing check the plugs for any signs of anything uncommon. ASK HIM if he has ever torqued the plugs, as I am an 01 owner and check mine regularly.
Also, 01 had the cruise control recall.

As for the price, it is low for the canadian market.
Yes they are going cheap in the states, but they are holding their value here much better. If you look in Kijiji most are going for no lower than 18k, some in the mid 20 range.

If you are interested in it, MAKE SURE you do your research before purchasing, or there is always potential for detonation and you'll be left with no warranty as it was bought privately!!

[MJG]

With these trucks the fuel prices don't play a factor too much, as the people who are interested in purchasing them are enthusiasts and already know 350 kms of premium a tank is normal. Gas has been bad for the last couple years, hitting $1.30 a number of times, but lightnings would still be in the 20ks.

So with regards to that, I personally do not believe that fuel costs would reduce the cost of a lightning too much, as they are a numbered vehicle and the world's coolest pickup.
Either the seller is not showing everything that is to be seen and somewhat desperate to sell, or he's just a plain old tool :icon_biggrin:

[MJG]

P.S. im running just shy of 14 lbs (for now) and my truck is strong as hell.
I will be at 16 in the spring, with a good tune and the proper MODS, it will last a long time.

ALSO check exactly what came in that performance package, as some items are general pieces and not necessarily all that great, I carefully research and buy different MODS from certain vendors that specialize in that specific MOD.

[MJG]

NOTE the LFP oil seperator and boost bypass MOD in that package or crap, don't do squat.
Also, it says "optional" SCT BIG AIR MAF METER, he better have it!!! especially if he chose the 6 lb pulley, 4 lb would be ok without it.
And yes, it seems the kit came with the sct xcal3 with a 'canned' tune....safe....somewhat, but won't tap into all the available HP like a dyno tune.

lol Im on a role

[Fordsy]

WOW MJG...that's alot of information. I am not interested in purchasing the truck, I was just curious if the price tag was low. Thank you for this information though, it is very useful in general. I am not sure if I will ever own a Lightning myself since I have a family of four, but I do love them and would own one in a heart beat if I could.

[MJG]

LOL its ok. Good for anyone who is interested in picking one up.
I didn't research enough before i bought, BUT I got extremely lucky when I bought mine as the original owner (only had 10 k on the clock) was as anal as I am now, thats how I started!!
Just have to be careful when buying these things, look at them as a sports car, not a pickup, if you treat it like a plain old pickup, it wont treat you well in return.

[tohi2care]

Post whore lol. Good info on Lightnings though.

[flip_86]

that's my truck, for the money i've got invested it is cheap, i bought a house and now have a 2 month old son, so unfortunately the lightning has to go, i'm confident i could get a lot more for it if i had time to wait, but i've become the victim of a bank error, my bank switched my mortgage from monthly to bi weekly, but didn't change the payment amount, so my mortgage accidentally doubled, as a result my visa is maxed and my bank accounts are in overdraft,
i absolutely love this truck and I hate having to sell it, but i've got no choice, sale is pending, but no deal is final until cash is in hand

[Oh My Hog]

That is great info. for considering purchasing a lightning or harley truck (02-03).

I personally would not run more than 12 pounds on a stock block.

Flip - that's crappy news. Any recourse with the bank?

[MJG]

You can run 16 lbs on a stock block and internals as long as you have a good tune. These email tunes from SCT etc are only good for very mild mods. There are no trustworthy tuners in Canada unfortunately, but the states have a good bunch. A dyno tune from an experienced lightning tuner i.e. JJ from WMS will allow you to run 16 and below quite safely.

[flip_86]

what he said, i've been told time and time again, its all in the tuning, i've been talking to a guy in the US on SVTP, hes running 17 psi boost and a 75 shot of nitrous, stock block, stock internals, never had heads off, now hes also acknowledged the fact that this set up is far from safe, but just an example. Ya i'd love to pay my mortgage that fast but given my situation i can't afford double payments, i asked about getting the money back, they weren't too reassuring but said they'd try.

[LayinHp]

wondering how a tune would help metel failure... anything over 450 and your pushing the rods to the max the bottom end is the week link in the trucks sure ive herd of guys going over 450 but rarley will they stand up to 500+ and if they do there awfull rare.....


if there the ones that screwed up then they should reverse it if you didnt autherize the biweekly payments then its there dime get your money back and one hell of an appology, if they wont refund it then if you want to persue it id contact a lawyer

[MJG]

the stock internals are good enough to take the 450 hp, thats where im stopping. a good/safe tune can do wonders with the proper timing and a good a/f ratio.
Theres guys who pop their blocks with hardly any mods because of a crap tune.

ALSO you can't just measure safety issues with boost psi. PSI does not necessarily mean power. I know that I will be seeing just shy of 16lbs of boost in the spring, but when I install headers/midpipes etc my PSI will drop but my power will increase.

I also know of a couple guys who have installed a magnum powers blower on a stock block and keep the tune safe around the 460hp mark and have been running that setup for a couple years with consistent beatings at the track, and they are still driving around the corner to get groceries.
I have learnt quite alot since being an L owner by doing LOTS of research and working on my truck myself.
Definately a good idea to read up on the forums for hours and learn from the mistakes of others. With these things, once you do a decent mod, there's typically a whole whack of supporting mods to follow.

[SvtChad]

I would but that truck right now if it was in Alberta.

[LayinHp]

ship it.... ive seen adds for guys to ship cars from BC to montreal for $600....just hafta look in papers and the classic auto trader (where i seen the add)

[SvtChad]

Yes I could do that but I'm not crazy about buying sight unseen from someone I don't know.

[wolfman1]

I looked at this truck and what he doesn't tell you untill you're there is that the truck has a rebuilt title. It was hit very hard on the front end. It has had frame repairs and the damage is obvious. Fit and finish is poor.

[MJG]

Ahhh knew it was a low price for that truck.
When looking at a Lightning I would definately not want one that was damaged, if the entire frame was replaced, maybe, but a 'repaired' frame will still be weak in areas.
Just my .02$

[MJG]

OH p.s., you cannot measure power and torque by boost alone, by adding headers mid pipe etc, you're boost will actually lower and hp may rise, so bystarting and stopping your modding strictly by psi isn't an accurate way to stay safe and have fun. You could have 14 lbs with the stock exhaust, install a full exhaust system and lower to 12-13 and re-tune for more power....therefore you have lower boost with more power...see what i'm getting at?

ok done my blurbs for this thread lol