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Ford shocked the truck market when it announced that the 2015 F-150 would come with an aluminum body. Then came a new downsized turbocharged V6. And now a diesel engine is also in the works.


According to a report by TheTruthAboutCars.com, which broke the news of the F-150′s aluminum body and turbocharged 2.7-liter V6, a mid-cycle update for the truck will add a diesel V6. Code named “Lion” the engine will be a 3.0-liter unit.
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According to TheTruthAboutCars, Ford already has life-cycle refreshes planned out for the latest F-150. Included will be a mid-life refresh, which will introduce a 3.0-litre V6 engine, codenamed “Lion.” In addition, TTAC says the F-150′s 2.7-litre EcoBoost V6 will pump out anywhere between 290 and 300 horsepower.

The F-150′s mid-cycle refresh is expected to roll out in 2018, but Ford was beaten to the punch by Ram, which introduced its EcoDiesel V6 in the Ram 1500 last year. In addition to the refresh, TTAC says Ford plans to introduce a 10-speed automatic transmission in the F-150 and will roll out aluminum-bodied versions of the F-150-based Expedition and Lincoln Navigator. Super Duty models, however, will remain steel-bodied.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...diesel-v6.html
http://www.egmcartech.com/2014/01/31...-wars-pick-up/
http://driving.ca/ford/f-150/auto-ne...sel-v6-engine/

2018 and Diesel with 10 speed transmission..

Would you consider trading in/buying a 1/2 ton diesel?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17



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Lion Diesel Engine Family


Overview
Manufacturer:Ford of Europe
Production: 2004–present

Combustion chamber

Configuration: DOHC Diesel


The Lion engine family was developed and manufactured at Ford's Dagenham Diesel Centre for use in PSA Peugeot Citroën vehicles (as DT17 as part of joint venture begun in 1999), Jaguar Cars (as the AJD-V6), and Land Rover vehicles. The engines share the same bore/stroke ratio, with the V6 displacing 2.7L and the V8 displacing 3.6L. The V6 was launched in 2004 and as of 2011 also serves in Ford Australia's Territory SUV; the V8 in 2006. The V6 engine meets the Euro IV emissions standards. A 3.0L was added in 2009 and is based on the 2.7L.

Lion V6



AJD-V6 engine in a 2006 Jaguar XJ

To improve the engine’s low-speed torque range for off-roading and towing applications, Land Rover installed a large capacity single-turbocharger, rather than use the twin-turbo design; in addition the engine is fitted with a large engine driven cooling fan to support low speed, high load driving as may be encountered in desert conditions. Furthermore, the Land Rover variant of the Lion V6 includes a deeper, high capacity sump with improved baffles to maintain oil pressure at off-roading extreme angles and multi-layered seals to keep dust, mud and water at bay and different transmission bell housing bolt pattern. The Lion V6 – constructed from compacted graphite iron[1] – is a member of the Ford Duratorq family and is produced at Ford’s Dagenham engine plant; 35,000 engines were produced from April to December 2004.

The 3.0-litre design, known as the Gen III, superseded the 2.7-litre, and uses parallel sequential turbochargers and an uprated commonrail injection system incorporating fuel injectors with piezo crystals fitted nearer to the tip to reduce engine noise and a metering mode to reduce oversupplying fuel, decreasing fuel consumption and unused fuel temperature over the 2.7-litre model. The parallel sequential turbocharger system utilises the larger of the two turbos when the engine is running at low revolutions; once the engine has reached 2,800 rpm, the smaller turbocharger is used to push boosted air to the larger turbo’s intake port, prior to the small turbocharger’s boosted air is redirected to the intercooler 300 milliseconds later.

Jaguar tested fitting the engine to its XK model but didn’t carry the project over to production.



The 3.0-litre variants used by Land Rover feature the 2.7-litre’s off-roading adaptations plus calibration of the engine’s electronics to allow the use of low-quality fuels.





3.0D/TDV6/HDi

Engine configuration & engine displacement

60-degree V6 engine, twin-turbo diesel, 2,993 cc (183 cu in), bore x stroke 84.0 mm × 90.0 mm (3.31 in × 3.54 in), compression ratio 16.4:1



Cylinder block & crankcase

Compacted graphite iron cross bolted block



Cylinder heads & valvetrain

High strength aluminium, DOHC with 4 valves per cylinder



Aspiration

Twin-turbochargers with air-to-air intercooler, electronically actuated variable geometry with transient over-boost capability, port deactivation system



Fuel system & engine management

Siemens Commonrail (CR) direct diesel injection, maximum injection pressure of 2,000 bars (29,000 psi), piezo injectors



DIN-rated motive power & torque outputs

177 kW (237 hp), 450 N·m (330 lbf·ft) – Citroën C5, Citroën C6, Peugeot 407, Peugeot 407 Coupé

177 kW (237 hp), 500 N·m (370 lbf·ft) – Jaguar XF, Land Rover Discovery 4, Range Rover Sport

187 kW (251 hp), 600 N·m (440 lbf·ft) – Land Rover Discovery 4, Range Rover Sport

202 kW (271 hp), 600 N·m (440 lbf·ft) – Jaguar XF, Jaguar XJ, Range Rover


Just some info i found looking around.

but ~270 hp and 440lb-ft torque sounds decent. but in 3 yrs.. 350hp and 500tq would be sweet. esspecially if it could run 30mpg on the highway! I'd be down for a new truck

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I'd consider it, but not with that engine. And definitely not coupled to an automatic.

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I wouldn't say "no chance" so much as a yawn of dis-interest. Maybe if I had something to haul besides a hitch cover. lol

Supercharged Raptor….now there's something to get excited about. All a matter of perspective.

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You can get a supercharged raptor with 3/60 warranty.

http://www.shelbyamerican.com/2013raptor.asp

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Nice ride Travis, and you are correct as usual, but I'm not really partial to the graphics, or the Shelby-whoring with the name on every moving part.

That alone would be enough to prevent buying that a particular gem, remember I'm more prone to the graphics-delete approach.

Eco-Diesel….are those the ones that run on used french fry grease ?

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there has been lots of hipe over a diesel F150 before................
the 4.5 V6 powerstroke was supposed to be used too back 10 yrs ago but nothing happened. it went into cabover fords instead.

believe it when it shows up on the order option list.

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I have no use for a diesel yet so I say not a chance. Diesel is more expensive than gas, parts are more expensive. Reliability is going to be the big thing and whether it has the DPF and DEF System.

I am going to wait a few years before even looking into a 1/2 Ton Diesel from Dodge or Ford.

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It will be few yrs before it's said to be released. 2018. So you may be in need


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Oh I thought it was coming sooner than 2018. I would still wait for a few years after that. Let the landscapers and contractors test them out than decide if they are worth the money.

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