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Aluminum Trumps Steel - Projectile Test

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http://blog.partsengine.ca/news/how-...-trumps-steel/

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I can see what they're trying to prove but some real world type collisions might have proved their point better.

I never doubted the aluminum being stronger than steel. They wouldn't use a weaker material to build a truck...I'd hope anyway.

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And back in Canada, we drop 40kg bags of salt and sand from 3m in to the bed and then pick up logs for firewood and drop that in the back and find out the logs go right through the box and can't drive the truck anywhere. The salt ate through the bed allowing the sand to seize the axle and then the firewood snapped the axle in half. Notice they said "todays industry standards!"

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Has anyone seen the New 2015 F-150 performance test?

I found this lurking this morning.

http://blog.partsengine.ca/news/how-...-trumps-steel/

I for one am still kinda one the fence - but I have to admit, these types of tests look pretty convincing. What I'd like to hear is what other people think of these sorts of tests? Are they an accurate depiction of what we can expect from the aluminum body?
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I'd be curious to see the comparative thicknesses of each material used....

Whats up with the links to the parts engine blog anyway?

I could tell you more than that article, is this click bait or what? lol


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Ford has definitely had to face their share of naysayers when it comes to their new, aluminum bodied Ford F-150, which, to tell you the truth, is not the least bit surprising. After all, steel has been the material of choice for the majority of the auto industry’s history – and in the minds of many, cannot be surpassed when it comes to performance and durability – especially in pickup trucks. Heck, even I have the tendency to subconsciously lean in favour of steel (perhaps the result of reading countless ‘Man of Steel’ comic books as a kid. No one is tougher than Superman after all).

So how has Ford gone about changing the minds of the masses? Well for starters, they’ve pitted the F-150 against other trucks in the same class in a series of head to head competitions and performance tests to prove that their vehicle performs as well as (if not better than) the competition. And yet, aluminum is still perceived as the ‘weaker’ material – in spite of the fact that high grade aluminum has a higher strength to weight ratio than steel.

This faulty perception is likely the driving force behind the creation of Ford’s newest over the top marketing campaign; the goal of which is to put to bed once and for all the myth that aluminum is a less durable and reliable material than steel.

The campaign, which shows the repeated pummeling of both the 2015 F-150’s aluminum-alloy truck bed and the previous year’s steel-clad bed by a Major League pitcher’s fastball, an NHL player’s slapshot, and a PGA caliber drive, clearly offers up some pretty definitive results.

When it’s all said and done, it’s hard to argue with what you can see with your own eyes. And in the case of this test, the fact that aluminum outperforms steel each and every time is undeniable.

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To use Ford's terminology...the body panels have be up-gauged. That would certainly help with resisting dents.

Mad Scientist Time:
The density of aluminum is about 168 lb/cu.ft and rolled steel is 490 lb/cu.ft.
Using those numbers, Ford could double its panel thicknesses and still save almost 1/3 of the weight of steel.

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The "commercial" has no numbers to back it up. Let's see the impact force numbers of each object hitting the bed and set the truck back on the ground so gravity can have its' chance to play into it. Nobody I know sets the truck on it's rear bumper to load it. Here's a "real world" challenge. Drop 10-1000 watt high pressure sodium lighting ballasts from 1 meter above the top of the box sides.

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I wonder what the next innovation will be. From what I've read, Ford is one of the company's that really gets into R&D to find new ways of doing things. They recently teamed up with the US government and a huge multinational corporation to develop cheaper and more abundant carbon fibers, which I believe has an even better strength to weight ratio than steel or aluminum.
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