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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-10-2011, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
 
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2011 F150 Decision

Okay, so I'm finally at the point where I have to upgrade the Ranger to a larger truck.

I'm decided on a supercab FX4 luxury edition, with most all of my options selected. What I'm not convinced on is the engine. If it weren't for the motor I would have already ordered the truck.

After my first F150 which had the "almost" 300 cu in. 4.9 inline 6 I've sworn I'd never drive an underpowered truck. I'm of the opinion that you don't really drive a truck for fuel economy (it's a work device after all) however I don't want to drive a hog if I can help it. Based on the miles I drive, adding 5 L/100 km would equate to an extra $25.00 a week.

If there wasn't all the buzz about the ecoboost, again I probably would have already ordered a 5.0. So, I realize everyone's going to be different, but I'm interested to know what others might do if you were in my situation; would you:

a) suck it up and order with a 5.0, or
b) take a chance and order the ecoboost, or
c) wait for the ecoboost test drive?

I'd appreciate some background on your decision as well - thanks!
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From what i'm reading, the EB is slated at 22 MPG on highway with a two wheel drive. The 4x4 is slated at 21..The 5.0 is pretty close to that as well. The EB will probably accel quicker and tow better..but do you really need that above what the 5.0 offers?..maybe test drive the 5.0 and see what you think. The EB's won't be out till Feb/March...I don't think you can go wrong with either engine.

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I'd test drive the ecoboost personally.

I think there will be alot more potential to be had from the EB via aftermarket tune/programmer.. mpg and hp

The 5.0 seems to be such a high revving engine.
I personally don't like that but that's me.
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i would go with the eco boost, with all the RnD work that thay did on it, my gfs dad works at the windsor engine plant next to the dyno room and the 5.0 truck based engine is prity much maxed out, out of the box he was sayin that it only shares some parts with the 5.0 in the stang block heads. The internals are the down fall. The stang engine is based from the ause 5.0. The 3.5 eco boost is the top dog in the dyno room he said the word is thay have had them up to 20psi and 8,000 rpm. and over 600+ hp.

im not sayin that the 5.0 is a bad choice or a bad engine just saying what i have herd over a few beers with the old man.

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here just watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4WF8Oe3wYQ

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i would go with the eco boost, with all the RnD work that thay did on it, my gfs dad works at the windsor engine plant next to the dyno room and the 5.0 truck based engine is prity much maxed out, out of the box he was sayin that it only shares some parts with the 5.0 in the stang block heads. The internals are the down fall. The stang engine is based from the ause 5.0. The 3.5 eco boost is the top dog in the dyno room he said the word is thay have had them up to 20psi and 8,000 rpm. and over 600+ hp...
Based on the info I found, the motor is the same with the exception of some changes done mostly for reasons of drivability over max hp, what truck owners would likely want...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...gines-car_news

Replacing the tried-and-tired 5.4-liter V-8 as the F-150’s volume engine will be the gutsy, all-aluminum, DOHC 5.0-liter V-8 that we’ve fallen in love with in the 2011 Mustang GT. It, too, receives truck-specific tweaks that diminish its overall power in the name of better drivability, but it will produce a still-respectable 360 hp at 5500 rpm and 380 lb-ft of torque at 4250. Major changes separating it from the version in the Mustang are a lower 10.5:1 compression ratio, a revised engine-management system, new intake camshafts with shorter duration, and new cast-iron exhaust manifolds.

I have seen nothing to indicate that the crank, pistons, rods etc are any different. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I haven't seen anything from a reputable source saying otherwise.

The 5.0L motor will be, according to Ford, the most ordered motor in the F150 line-up and IMO, will be every bit as good as Ford enthusiasts want it to be.

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I think the Eco Boost is a great motor. And remember, it's been doing duty in the Ford Taurus SHO and the optional motor in the Flex for the last year. It's got lots of real life testing done. It's a $1000 premium over the 5.0L, but I think that's fair considering it does come with some perks...

It makes only 5hp more than the 5.0L, but 40 more ft-lbs/tq - with slightly better fuel economy, and towing capacity increases to 11,300lbs (with the towing package).

This motor's design will ultimately be the future for pick up trucks. All the manufacturers need to meet increasingly strict CAFE standards and going with smaller displacement motors and lighter materials is what's going to help them get there.

Which brings me to another point... A Super Crew F150 is a big vehicle. It's not light. Ford can put whatever motor they like in there, but it still has to motivate over 5000lbs.

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As far as the OP's question goes... I personally don't think you'll be disappointed with either motor. If you like the traditional sound of the V8, then go for the 5.0L. If exhaust note isn't so important but more towing ability and a bit better fuel economy is of prime concern, then plop down the extra $1000 and give the new Eco Boost a try.
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they dont offer anything bigger then the 5.0L ? wow I would have thought they would offer the 6.2 as an option.


the ecoboost is nice but long term will the motor stand up to the boost ? and theres murmers about the direct injection....



either way a fully decked out 2011 is equel to what I paid for an xlt back in 2000 so they have come down in price....alot



oh and if you dont already have one run out and get a costco membership.... drop an extra $1000 off the price



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^^^ The 6.2L is optional on the Lariat, but not the FX4 or King Ranch. It's standard equipment on the Platinum, Lariat LTD, Harley and Raptor.

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The Costco Membership Deal - Offer only valid from Dec 1/10 to Jan 31/11 (the "Offer Period") to resident Canadians with a Costco membership on or before November 30, 2010.

But there is a $1000 delivery allowance right now on 2011 F150's and 0% Financing!!! That's a good deal!
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-11-2011, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks guys.

I've been reading a lot of boards lately, trying to do my research on the EB but it's tough since they aren't available to joe public as of yet. Lots of speculation, little fact other than what someone has "heard" or "read".
I'll be honest, if it wasn't for the torture videos I probably wouldn't even be considering the EB. I tried driving a 5.0 on Saturday but it was a blizzard by the time I got into the truck; I'm going to call the dealer and take the truck for a couple nights to see.
I'm sure I'd be happy with the 5.0, it's just that "what if" factor.... I know I'll never tow with the truck, 95% of the time it will just be hauling me around the Niagara peninsula which I'm sure the V8 can handle. On the other hand, having done 3 trucks in 5 years I'd actually like to keep a truck until the payments are over.
It all comes down to patience, patience patience. Time will tell if I can muster up enough I guess. Thanks again.
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