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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-23-2014, 06:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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The future has arrived!

Ok, so on my sig panel it says The Future - Who knows? The future has saw fit to send me a 1993 F250 XLT Turbo Diesel 4x4. Any suggestions as to where to start or what to look for? Troubleshooting tips...etc. It has a 5 speed which, for me, was a deal maker. Super Cab, Black and was originally from Oregon. I'm somewhat soured on diesels by the F-550 at work but have come to realize that oil changes matter on 6.0L engines. Looks like it has a Dana 50 front axle, IFS with leaf springs. Axle code is 35 which, so far, seems to be 4.10 diff. So, I'm looking for anything from anyone in the way of info. Pics come next weekend. Body is in really good shape. That's good because I hate doing body work beyond R/R a fender, hood, door or box.

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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-23-2014, 07:58 PM
 
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Those IDI 7.3's are very reliable motors. Not sure if it's your thing, but many guys swap that Dana 50 TTB out with a Dana 60 solid axle. Pretty straight forward swap and iirc, you need a small amount of lift to make it work right. The dana 50 can eat parts with that heavy motor on it. Check brake lines going along the frame...they usually rot right behind the front fuel tank where you can't clean or even see.


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Any ideas which parts the Dana 50 are weak? I am considering the swap but thats awhile away yet. Thanks for the reminder in the brake lines. Had to do that on the F150. Easy enough done though.

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Basically just gotta to keep an eyey on any play. Because there are many moving parts on the D50 you need to stay on top if it to keep the tires from wearing. Parts include tie rods, ball joints, wheel bearings, axle housing bushings, three axle u-joints, springs and bushings. Also good shocks are worth it too. The factory tie rods, ujoints and ball joints are non greaseable, so they can seize up pretty quick. If you have to replace parts, go with greaseable stuff so you can maintain them.


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good truck if its from the west. get it well oil sprayed .

if it has a red interior I think you should just pass it on to me

the return orings on the injectors, 2 on each injector are prone to seapage but are a cheap and fairly easy fix with a return line hose kit.

you are right on the 410's as for the dana 50 front, yes they have more moving parts and the leaf TTB don't handle worth a crap. the locking hubs/rotors and calipers fit same year dana 60.

but the Ujoints are indestructible as they are the same size as dana60 but have external full snap rings instead of internal C clips. ring and pinion are very strong also.

The TTB leaf tends to wander something awful, I had a new 1996 with a TTB 50 and a diesel 5spd and I grew to hate it in my 3yrs of ownership. mine had auto hubs and front posi and making a real sharp turn if the Ujounts were not perfectly in line with the BJs, it would move an axle shaft enough to lock one hub. and I would be driving along wondering what all the extra noise was

only breakage I have ever seen on a dana 50 that was not from neglect was breaking the Left side TTB right at the centre diff and leaf spring. this was from bottoming out the beam hard with plow on front. had a buddy with a 1981 or 82 F250 who plowed snow with the truck for almost 20 years on the original dana50 with no issues other than regular maintenance , he had a 4inch lift in the front and never bottomed the suspension out once.

I always used an FL1995 oil filter on my idi's I've had, adds another litre of oil into your service and that can't hurt.

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Seems like the front end won't be much different than I running on the F-150. Sorry, no red interior. That would have gotten changed out PDQ. It's the same grey as the F-150. I've got the Dana 44 IFS in the F-150 but it runs coils. No sign of a plow ever being on the front. So, thats a good thing. If it needs any front components, Moog, Spicer and Federal Mogal are my friends. My guess without, so far, is the front mounted shackles will have me wondering if they can be moved to the rear. I think I figured out the starting problem. The glow plug controller doesn't keep the plugs on long enough. My guess, right now, is the engine temp switch may be causing that. Can't wait for next weekend.

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One of these type kits is well worth improving the front suspension: http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/cgi...y=FORD-FSR-003


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Seems like the front end won't be much different than I running on the F-150. Sorry, no red interior. That would have gotten changed out PDQ. It's the same grey as the F-150. I've got the Dana 44 IFS in the F-150 but it runs coils. No sign of a plow ever being on the front. So, thats a good thing. If it needs any front components, Moog, Spicer and Federal Mogal are my friends. My guess without, so far, is the front mounted shackles will have me wondering if they can be moved to the rear. I think I figured out the starting problem. The glow plug controller doesn't keep the plugs on long enough. My guess, right now, is the engine temp switch may be causing that. Can't wait for next weekend.
just in case you did not know this....................
the glow plug controller will cycle shorter and shorter as glow plugs burn out.
might want to check those glow plugs first.

easy test: remove all the wires from each glow plug, take your 12 volt test light and put the clamp on the "+" battery terminal touch the probe to each glow plug terminal and if it lights up its good, if it doesn't it's fushnikin!

I haven't seen anybody personally using a shackle reversal on the TTB 50, lots on Dana60 though.
the TTB leaf spring beams are a lot shorter than the coil TTB!

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The solid axle swap may come around the same time as the shackle reversal. I'm getting new glow plugs with the truck along with a few other items. Testing will tell. I thank everyone for the suggestions. I know the exhaust could use some work. Maybe add an intercooler to keep the turbo cooler. I'm new to diesels when it comes to owning one. All tips are greatly appreciated.

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Oh, forgot...join thedieselstop.com! Thee best Ford diesel site out there.


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